Read Next: 10 Great Guns That We Wish Were Still Being Made. The rimless case uses a 35-degree shoulder for headspacing, and maintains a 2.590-inch case length and 3.340-inch cartridge overall length. Mag. Just 3,000 fps. Traditional .270s are limited by 1:10 rifling twist to 150-grain bullets. Nosler has built quite a cartridge family, and it continues to grow. I put a Vortex Viper PST Gen II 5-25x scope on my rifle, so the finished setup weighed 31.2 ounces. Say the bullets are more than 180 grains in 300 Win Mag. That bullet offers the best of all worlds, as it will reliably expand at longer ranges when it has slowed down a bit, yet will hold together at woods distances when velocities remain high; it is also respected as a very accurate bullet. Those are the two loads I keep seeing in my local Sportsmans Warehouse and Cabelas. With its case capacity (98.4 grains water compared to about 80 grains in a .270 Wby. or .264 Win. Hit an elk with a 175-gr. However, simply not passing through the body is not necessarily a bad thing, and depends highly on the bullet construction. Recoil is stout, but manageable. The 28 Nosler adds considerable powder, thus energy, to push the same 175-grain bullet as the 280 AI. .270 Winchester. H4350 130 grain Barnes TSX 2980 fps in 22 inch barrel. He wasnt quite prepared for the recoil when the rifle was mounted on his shoulder over a puffy coat. If you like your hearing, on the other hand, shooting without a brake will kick hard. With 170 gr Berger Elite hunters, RP once fired brass, win large rifle primers, 57.5 grains RL 26 COAL 3.484 I get 2,930 FPS at roughly 70 degrees. At 300 yards that bullet should still carry nearly 2,700 ft-lb energy, which is close to what a 180-grain .308 Winchester coughs up at the muzzle. The .270 Winchester fits standard-length actions with standard diameter bolt faces and standard magazines. The two old wildebeest bulls weighed about 315 pounds each, and a mature bull elk weighs approximately 650 pounds. On much of their marketing material for the cartridge, they call it The New Herd Bull.. Mag., and elk hardly know the difference. Jim Harmer is a host of the Backfire Youtube channel. And youll definitely want to spark those heavy powder charges with a large rifle magnum primer. Based on the antique .404 Jeffery cartridge case, the 27 Nosler is the first new .277-caliber rifle cartridge . A couple of friends swear by the .444 Marlin for hunting elk in oak brush. Mag. So my final hunting setup only weighs 8 pounds, 8 ounces. But replacing the 300 WSM doesn't make sense to me. The main body, however, is brass. It worked fine for long range deer hunting, but elk hunters wanted more bullet. However, strong-bodied hunters who will only shoot 20 shots in a practice session and a few shots for hunting will likely have no trouble at all. At 2,500 fps and a B.C. Nosler, the world's finest bullets, ammunition, rifles, & brass. Mag., 27 Nosler, .277 SIG Fury. Personally I find rifle energy a poor measure of killing ability. I also have a 28 Nosler and am very impressed with its performance. Theyre all proven to kill elk with proper shot placement and are available in rifles you wont mind carrying in the mountains. I wouldnt hesitate to take the 27 Nosler on any elk or moose hunt, and Id also feel comfortable using it on the full gamut of African plains game, as well as leopard. bullet like the Swift Scirocco will retain 2,350 ft-lb at 400 yards, 1,500 ft-lb clear out at 600 yards. Extremely flat shooting. Bill Buckley. So, for an all-around elk-thumper, Ive gone back to the .338. Energy and velocity are more indicators of bullet performance ability, along with penetration at range. Look at ammo cost to either buy or reload, whichever you do. 1:8.5 The 27 Noslers faster-than-standard twist barrel is designed to stabilize modern, long range bullets. But elk stopping performance typically comes with a price: recoil. However, since the 2007 advent of the 6.5 Creedmoor, theyve taken the target and hunting world by storm. Some folks will take any attempt to improve the .270 Winchester as a direct insult, yet I disagree: like the .22-250 Remington and .35 Whelen, an improved twist rate can really change the game altogether, and this is exactly what the 27 Nosler has done. A final consideration these days is availability of guns and ammo. If you like velocity, the 27 Nosler will fit the bill, as it drives the 150-grain bullets to a muzzle velocity of 3300 fps, and the 165-grain bullets to 3150 fps. Mag.,) the 27 Nosler should be able to nudge a 165-grain along at 3,100 fps, perhaps 3,150 fps. Well, the 27 Nosler shoots flatter than the 6.5 PRC, and delivers more energy on target than the 300 Win. Kali Parmley of Gun Dog Magazine talks to George Thompson from Benelli USA about the new features from the Benelli line in 2023. Magnum, 26 Nosler, and my choice for all-round balance in a short action rifle, the 6.5 PRC. The venerable .270 Winchester has been a mainstay on gun store racks, ammo displays and in reloaders cabinets for decades. According to my notes, I've killed 27 elk with a 270. Im guessing many semi-custom brands like Fierce, Christensen Arms, Browning X-Bolts and others will soon be chambered 27 Nosler. Slide up to some of the new 190-gr. The .28 Nosler shoots flat and powerfully, but it is expensive to shoot, burns barrels quickly, and has significant recoil. My thoughts are this, the .25-calibers, limited to 120-grain bullets, are too light for bull elk. Roughly equivalent to a . Selecting your perfect elk caliber hinges on you as well as the elk and the landscapes and habitat in which youll hunt them. In other words, unlovely. If you hunt where the game is tough, the shots are long and demanding, and there is no room for compromise, there is no better choice than the 27 Nosler. Joined Feb 1, 2016 Messages 82. The 27 Nosler shares the same caliber as the storied .270 Winchester and other .27 caliber rifles. The final arbiters of the Best elk calibers are you and the elk, but here are my top five that I chose for their balance of power, reach, recoil, trajectory (drop and drift,) availability, affordability in reasonably compact, light, mountain ready rifles. Retains > 1,700 foot/pounds of energy at 500 yards. Can Coolers | An Official Journal Of The NRA, Find More Great NRA Publications Perfect For Every Interest, Discover Everything That The NRA Has To Offer. Kevin Steele stops by the Taurus booth to speak with Cody Osborn about the all new Raging Hunter platform from Taurus International. Bottles & 12-oz. So, Nosler, a company rooted in tradition but also with an eye to cutting-edge performance, has now turned its attention to the .277 caliber and brought the loading possibilities into the modern era with the introduction of the 27 Nosler. I took some big elk with the Swift A-Frame and bullet performance was exceptional. In the past, you had to handload to get these, but long-range shooters have created sufficient demand that many ammo makers now offer factory ammo featuring bullets heavier than 200-grains. Im not exactly sure how its accomplished, but it involves plenty of pressure, Im sure. On the other side of the caliber scale are the .35 Whelen (.30/06 necked up) and various .375s. The 27 Nosler has a long leade for sleek, high BC, long ogive, ABLR and RDF style bullets. Unless you work with a custom gun builder and handload, study factory options before choosing. Required fields are marked *. throwing similar weight projectiles means youre packing elk medicine. With a muzzle brake (included with the X-bolt Pro, the gun is quite tolerable. UPC #: 054041612371. Not long ago, the .270 Winchester reigned supreme. The right bullet in the right place. IMR 7828, IMR 7977 and IMR 8133; Reloder 26 and Reloder 33; Hodgdons H1000 and H50BMG; all make good choices for the big case. Quite a few elk have fallen from the 117hh in a wsm at . Whats best for you depends on the distance you intend to shoot, based on where you hunt. One of them was even a clean pass through and she only walked about 20 yards and piled-up. Thats the key to each of these new .270 cartridges. What does this mean for the hunter in the field? Okay, maybe not a pallet, but a lot. It was and still is Everymans (and womans) 30 magnum. The factory ammo and brass is cheaper for the 28 Nosler. Mag., and .300 RUM are all 30 calibers, but significantly different 30-caliber cartridges. Home on the Range: The flat-shooting 27 Nosler is an ideal open-country hunting cartridge. 28. I want to hit them well, but also hardat any range. Re-barrel to the 27 Nosler and go kill elk. Google a 270 win - 280 rem comparison and it will tell you all you need to know. No matter 27 or 28 caliber. This takes us back to the launch. Good bullet design and placement seem to work just fine. Weatherbys .300 magnum had been dazzling magnum fans since the mid 1940s, but it was a full-length magnum caliber available only in expensive custom or Weatherby Rifles. Calibers lighter and heavier than the 7mms through .338s can be considered excellent for elk. Quite frankly I was surprised to get that velocity out of the 270 win. How about outstanding accuracy, flat trajectories, long legs and a 165gr wallop at the end of that ballistic journey? Mag. The problem with the medium magnums (over .30 and less than .375): There are few to choose from, and only the .338 is genuinely popular with a robust selection of loads. We had set up in what I considered to be a less-than-advantageous position, a bit too skylined for my liking, and with very little cover. From left to right: 27 Nosler, .270 Weatherby Magnum, .270 WSM, .270 Winchester, 6.8 SPC. The right .30/06 load should add 100 fps velocity and 100 ft-lb energy. Publisher Kevin Steele is in the Beretta booth with Logan Killam, the Shotgun Product Manager, to discuss the all new Beretta A300 Ultima Turkey. Sign up with your email address to receive news and updates. Petersen's HUNTING Publisher, Kevin Steele is in the CZ booth with Dylan Rice at SHOT Show to talk about CZ 600 Series Trail rifle. Backfire LLC owns and operates this website. Are you concerned about barrel life? With the right bullet and .308 hunting rifle, the ubiquitous .308 Winchester is more than adequate out to 300 yards where a high B.C. Work the numbers, compare for yourself; at moderate ranges differences arent that dramatic. The SIG and Nosler both require fast twist rifling to stabilize those long, high B.C. That means less tracking of wounded game, which is all math thats sure to please any hunter. The old archetypical big-timber elk rifle was the Winchester M71 in .348. But where it deviates from its barrel-diameter brethren is in case capacity. And I write calibers and cartridges because caliber means the diameter of the bore. And suddenly, in 2020, were getting two of them. There are plenty of other .30-calibers for hire. Heavier bullets. Video of Elk Being Shot with .28 Noslerif(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'backfire_tv-box-4','ezslot_13',175,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-backfire_tv-box-4-0'); Nosler even advertises the .28 Nosler primarily as an elk cartridge. (Or you can just stalk closer and to heck with pushing the envelope. After years of the 6.5mm craze, we may be about to witness the .270 rising. The cartridge fires a bullet with a diameter of .284 inches or 7mm. X-Vision Optics long-range ImpactThermal Scope (TS300) boasts a 640 x 480 thermal sensor that can detect big game well past 3,000 yards. Mag. My 28 Nosler launches the 162 Grain EL-DX's at 3,250 FPS. After all, this was the round Bell used to collect 800 elephants and untold numbers of Cape buffalo. Okay, but minimal. So, bullet performance and caliber are the measures of killing power at expected shooting ranges. Guns. Lots of things still to be determined, but at least the .277-inch bullet size is getting some new life. True. May 28, 2019 By Layne Simpson. The Ammunition that I will be focusing on for the 27 Nosler are factory Nosler Trophy Grade 150 grain AccuBond and 165-grain AccuBond Long Range offerings. They share a maximum body diameter of 14.0 mm (0.550 in). Design evolves. Hornady Outfitter is pretty accurate and its less than its other Nosler cousins. Registration on or use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Service. Because elk are so tough, the farther the shot, the harder you ought to hit them! Not faster, not always more accurate, but designed around modern bulletswhich really do offer a long-range advantage. The .338/06 adds about 200 fps muzzle velocity for about two inches less drop at 300 yards and roughly 300 ft-lb more punch. . Will the 27 Nosler shove the .270 Winchester out of the limelight? Kevin Steele from Petersen's HUNTING speaks to Jordan Egli of Burris Optics about the all-new Veracity PH Riflescope. That increased capacity, coupled with modern powders, allows the 27 Nosler to drive bullets faster and flatter than ever before. As an elk cartridge, the .30-06 still shines. To comply with the new e-Privacy directive, we need to ask for your consent to set the cookies. Mag. With greater frontal area (than a .30) and heavy bullets, the .338 will do this. You might want to grab yourself a 27 Nosler unless. The Nosler M48 Carbon Mountain Rifle is reviewed and taken to the range, where we shot and tested several handloads. The .264 topped out at 140-grains. By 600 yards that energy advantage will have dropped to just 180 ft-lb. My picks for the best elk hunting calibers are what I consider the best, not the most popular. This nudges MV (muzzle velocity) to 3,200 fps and increases recoil velocity to almost 18 fps and energy to nearly . cannot measure up to the .338 Win. I have shot most of my big game with a 270 Win or a 270 WSM. While there are some drawbacks to this cartridge for elk hunting, in general its one of the best rounds on the market. But in the chart it says it carries it to over 1200 yards. Hunters typically but incorrectly use the best elk calibers to mean cartridge, but Ill use calibers for the sake of this review. Based on the 404 Jeffrey Same case as the 30 Nosler When compared to the 28 Nosler, the 27 Nosler has a longer neck and a shorter length to the shoulder to prevent the 28 from being chambered in the 27. trajectory may explain how the 7mm Rem. Ive had unsuccessful elk hunts, but Ive never lost a bull, so my choices have worked for me. I handled a sample Cross and it felt precise, tight, remarkably adjustable for fit, and impressively light at just 6.5 pounds, only about 1.5 pounds heavier than the ultralight mountain rifles Ive hunted with the past 30 years. The 27 Nosler case has 42% more case capacity than the 270 Winchester, 25% more than the 270 WSM and 12.5% more than the 270 Weatherby. There are dozens of good elk cartridges, with choices depending largely on the distances you intend to shoot, thus dictating the bullet energy you need to project. First, 7mm bullets tend to have better aerodynamics, so they will strut their stuff better at longer ranges. Given that 1,500 ft-lb is considered elk power, both projectiles are golden. But the .338 Win. Flatter trajectories. Some of us hunt still-hunt elk in black timber and on brushy lower slopes. Even at the 500-yard mark, the 27 Nosler will deliver over 2,100 ft.-lbs. The doe fell out of the scope, and I had filled the last of the four tags issued to me on the Hawaiian Island of Molokai. Its been one of the best selling, popular all-round hunting cartridges in the U.S. Much of its appeal is reasonable recoil, fairly significant muzzle velocity in the 3,000 fps range, mid-sized bullet weights found to be ideal for taking deer-sized game and good enough for some larger stuff with good design and placement. Ditto the .416s, 44s, and 45s. The 7mm Rem Mag is certainly adequate for any elk, especially with heavier bullets. Feb 27, 2006 5,121 173. The new .270s (27 Nosler and 6.8 Western), with faster twists and bullets up to 175 grains change the game. Mag., 6.5 Weatherby RPM, 6.5-300 Wby. Weatherby came out with his .270 magnum fairly soon (about 20 years) after the .270 Winchester took off, but the next .277 shooter didnt pop until 2001 as the .270 Winchester Short Magnum. Will you be able to handload once-fired cases? Winchester borrowed the same basic belted magnum case, blew out the walls, pushed the 25-degree shoulder forward, shortened overall length to .30/06 standard, and created a powder reservoir holding about 90 grains of water. 1 Write a Review Q&A (2) Our Price: $110.99. Mag. For big bears, I prefer 250-grain bullets, but for elk I stick with 200 to 225-grain bullets. Nosler has introduced the 27 Nosler, a 27-caliber cartridge based on the fat .404 Jeffery case, same as the .30, .28, and .26 Noslers. That is, the best of the best for terminating elk without beating up shooters. Throw the excellent 32 calibers into the mix, the .325 WSM and 8mm Rem. A traditional stock or adjustable? Mag., .270 WSM, and 27 Nosler step it up a few notches, and the 6.8 Western with its fast twist barrels nudges bullet weights to the upper end of the 7mm line up. re: new 27 nosler vs 28 nosler Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:43 pm to kengel2.
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